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Flying here is (surprisingly) legal

  • Publicado em 10 Jul 2022
  • The Hudson River Special Flight Rules Area is an incredible thing: unrestricted airspace right next to Manhattan. We flew it. ■ Thanks to John De Groot, and to Century Air (who mostly provide pilot training, so I'm grateful that they took the time to arrange this!): centuryair.com/ - this is not sponsored, I paid for my flight and their time.
    The flight and radio procedures in this video have been significantly shortened for time, and operations over the city were pre-approved with local air traffic control. This is not intended as a substitute for proper instruction or for reference.
    Edited by Isla McTear
    Audio mix by Dan Pugsley cassinisound.com
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Comentários • 1 970

  • Tom Scott
    Tom Scott  2 meses atrás +10726

    It was a 50/50 shot between this title and "Flying here feels like it should be illegal, but it's not." The double negative seemed worse somehow.

    • Amanda Baule
      Amanda Baule 6 dias atrás

      You should do a Circle Line boat tour... get the opposite view of the statue where you're looking up at her immense size from the waters surrounding her. It's equally awe inspiring.

    • Jack O'Donnell
      Jack O'Donnell 2 meses atrás

      Nah the internet don't like no double negatives none

    • EricTheYounger
      EricTheYounger 2 meses atrás

      Do you know what a double negative is? Because that isn't one.

    • Scott Irvine
      Scott Irvine 2 meses atrás

      You made the right call!

    • ccityplanner12 :
      ccityplanner12 : 2 meses atrás

      Everything in a city centre feels like it should be illegal to a Brit; Whitehall has for the past few years been full of portable fences that are used for protests & which the police don't have the budget to put in storage & get back out again for every protest. We've had our courage bashed in by "what with all that's going on in the world". Anyone who dares to say this should be mindful that for those of us who happen to be young, all has been going on in the world for our entire lifetime.

  • Caucasiafro
    Caucasiafro 2 meses atrás +9481

    "It's not necessarily hard, it's just not forgiving" is a quote I really like. I feel like that's true for a lot of things in life.

    • Minimax04
      Minimax04 Mês atrás

      I felt the same, it’s a superb quote.

    • Trusty Shellback
      Trusty Shellback Mês atrás

      @Thomas Bell I work on large cargo ships as a Mate. The phrase I heard often from Captains during my training was "Long periods of boredom with moments of pure terror". I learned what they meant after I went to sea. You will spend days to weeks just staring at the ocean, but when things go wrong, many things goes wrong at the same time. And considering you're driving a floating football stadium, maneuvering is very slow and the danger rapidly escalates.

    • Zraknul
      Zraknul Mês atrás

      @Liv the Morrigan No it's very much not the dark souls of travel methods. You can't make an attempt, die and try again over and over and over again until you make it.

    • Zakathv S
      Zakathv S 2 meses atrás

      Yes. Just.... Yes. Agreed.

    • Shinigami Shorts Inc.
      Shinigami Shorts Inc. 2 meses atrás

      Most of the things in life.

  • BorinUltimatum
    BorinUltimatum 2 meses atrás +1583

    As someone who has lived around and in the NYC Metro area my entire life, I was always curious about how there were so many helis and low-flying planes up and down the Hudson on a regular basis. This explains a lot.

    • DogsRNice
      DogsRNice Mês atrás

      @Carbon 12 who are you talking to

    • KickerBoyAnimation
      KickerBoyAnimation Mês atrás

      @Carbon 12 what

    • Jonathan Riehn
      Jonathan Riehn 2 meses atrás +4

      @Warren Postma it is a actually caseof grandfather law that the faa was forced to adapt into modern law because there were biplane tour groups for the empire and statue of liberty going very far back that used the Hudson as ingress or egress.

    • Matii2222
      Matii2222 2 meses atrás +5

      @Warren Postma theres always VFR corridors within bravo airspaces, its so you dont have to go around or get a flight plan with tower. It generally uses landmarks so they are easy to follow, in this case, the hudson river

    • Carbon 12
      Carbon 12 2 meses atrás +2

      I'm sorry for your loss.

  • Kate Johannsen
    Kate Johannsen 2 meses atrás +701

    I found it amusing knowing that while you were circling the Empire State Building filming, people on the observation deck were undoubtedly filming you!

    • Joe Dellinger
      Joe Dellinger Mês atrás +18

      He should have asked a follower to be there filming him!
      When I went on a boat under the Golden Gate bridge, I had a friend on the bridge photographing me. And I photographed him!

    • David James
      David James Mês atrás +2

      @Lone Starr Maybe they could submit it to Tom

    • Lone Starr
      Lone Starr 2 meses atrás +52

      That means they have live material of Tom Scott himself! Something to brag about in front of your grandchildren, that's for sure.

  • Nathan.Clinger
    Nathan.Clinger 2 meses atrás +188

    I didn’t realize how low Tom was until he said they were about half way up the Freedom Tower. Then I realized they’re cruising at 1,100 feet and that towers spire tops out at a very symbolic 1,776 feet. Crazy stuff.

  • Jack Linde
    Jack Linde 2 meses atrás +386

    For those who are wondering why the pilot periodically makes a radio transmission at regular intervals, even though "no one is going to respond to them", it's not because no one is going to respond to them. It's to let other pilots know they're there. Things can get busy in the cockpit, and most aircraft flying in the uncontrolled airspace don't have radar and aircraft detection/avoidance systems that the commercial jets rely on. And, as the video shows, it's not that no one is going to respond. If there's an aircraft in the area (as was the helicopter part way to the Hudson Bay), they should respond back to let you know they see you (as did the helicopter).

    • Jul W
      Jul W Mês atrás

      @Mike :3

    • kim lundberg
      kim lundberg 2 meses atrás +12

      @Jack Linde For those wondering, Tom is flying over New York.

    • Rick Greer
      Rick Greer 2 meses atrás +4

      And unlike many other less-controlled airspace situations where you "should" announce, announcing at certain points is mandatory in the SFRA.

    • Jack Linde
      Jack Linde 2 meses atrás +9

      @____________________ Then this post isn't for you. I did preface it with "For those who are wondering..."

    • ____________________
      ____________________ 2 meses atrás +19

      I understood all of this from watching the video. He explained it.

  • Theo Jaquenoud
    Theo Jaquenoud 2 meses atrás +3967

    I lived in NY for almost 20 years. Getting low flying helicopters is extremely common above the rivers and even parts of Manhattan, but I don’t think I’ve ever noticed cesnas running circles above the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building. Super cool video, thanks!

    • George L
      George L 2 meses atrás

      @Glujaz You have to clear flying over Central Park with LGA tower before proceeding.

    • Jake Hix
      Jake Hix 2 meses atrás +1

      @Vigilant Cosmic Penguin If you think seeing a Cessna plane is rare, wait 'til you hunt down Eldon Cessna's descendants.

    • Vigilant Cosmic Penguin
      Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 2 meses atrás +3

      I don't think I've ever seen a Cessna, period.

    • Rohishimoto
      Rohishimoto 2 meses atrás +21

      @Ragnhild Yep, I've never really minded the planes. I think it also has to do with the fact that their sound changes cause of their movement because of the doppler effect, whereas the helicopters sound is just a monotonous pounding. It's like the audio version of Chinese water torture.

    • Ragnhild
      Ragnhild 2 meses atrás +8

      At least a plane has to keep moving.

  • DefConPilot
    DefConPilot 2 meses atrás +447

    I made this flight myself, while I was working on my commercial. The views were incredible, you could practically see people working at their desks in the buildings. I'm happy to be flying larger aircraft and getting paid for it instead of the other way around but I do sometimes miss ripping around the friendly skies in the old Warrior with my friends. Highly recommend it to any recreational pilots out there!

    • zafuro
      zafuro Mês atrás

      "you could practically see the consequences of the industrial revolution 🤯"

    • Gvistic
      Gvistic Mês atrás

      @Jordan Henshaw Looks like they also raised in altitude so not exactly 1000 feet in the middle of manhattan, but hard to tell since they cut out a lot of communication with the LaGuardia tower

    • Julian Gerretsen
      Julian Gerretsen 2 meses atrás +2

      @Paul Sengupta Errr... Not at all. US rules are in principle almost identical to ours but for some wording differences. The "glide clear rule" is slightly differently stated, but essentially the same - the pilot has the responsibility to ensure that they have (except for take off and landing - sound familiar?) "an altitude allowing, if
      a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface." - That's glide clear in identical spirit, if slightly different rules. You can read up on it in "CFR 91.119 Minimum Safe Altitudes".

    • Jordan Henshaw
      Jordan Henshaw 2 meses atrás

      @DefConPilot Interesting.

    • DefConPilot
      DefConPilot 2 meses atrás +5

      @Jordan Henshaw There are any number of possible outcomes to this situation; glide performance is dependent on the type of airplane, atmospheric conditions, and the preparedness and skill of the pilot, among other things. Your altitude selection when flying over these areas must take all this into consideration, you are legally required to fly at an altitude from which you can maneuver the plane to a landing (or crash) without undue hazards to persons or property. If I'm going to fly 1000 ft above the tops of the skyscrapers, I'm not going to go so far into the concrete jungle as to not be able to glide clear of it and set the plane down elsewhere.

  • Chris Pooler
    Chris Pooler 2 meses atrás +85

    Seriously, half the beauty of these videos is watching Tom's reactions. Just his general excitement, and enjoyment is contagious. He genuinely is intrigued by everything he does, or where he visits.

  • IvisTheTerrible
    IvisTheTerrible 2 meses atrás +133

    Not too long ago I took a trip to NY and did the observatory at the top of the World Trade Center. Seeing the helicopters and planes flying lower than I was standing was surreal, very cool to learn about the legal loopholes that made that moment for me possible

    • ParadigmUnkn0wn
      ParadigmUnkn0wn Mês atrás

      @Arkajit Maity that makes no sense. It's like arguments for gun control. Just like criminals would still have guns even if they were made illegal, terrorists would still be able to fly into restricted airspace and crash into a building. It's not like they're gonna be around to copy down a number from ATC regarding a possible pilot deviation after crashing into a building. That and the risk to a skyscraper from a little Cessna or helicopter is really, really low. I forget when and where it was, but someone tried crashing a Cessna 172 into an office building one time and the only fatality was the pilot. The folks inside got a good scare and I think some broken glass caused minor injuries, but it didn't do much more than break the window. Keep in mind that we're talking about aircraft that weigh a good bit less than a typical car. You could do more damage with an SUV than a little Cessna Skyhawk. And larger planes like turboprops and light jets fly too fast to meet the requirements for transiting the SFRA.

    • CrazyMazapan
      CrazyMazapan 2 meses atrás +6

      Not too long ago? I was there too, but that was over 20 YEARS AGO! :D

    • Arkajit Maity
      Arkajit Maity 2 meses atrás +1

      Like nothing bad ever happened on 09/11/2001

    • John Opalko
      John Opalko 2 meses atrás +46

      Those aren't loopholes. Those are regulations that were quite deliberately written and put into effect. See 14 CFR § 93 Subpart W for the nitty-gritty details of the Hudson River and East River Exclusions.

  • Aviate68
    Aviate68 2 meses atrás +33

    As a general aviation pilot, this video made me really happy! He explained it really well. Props to the pilot, seems like a good knowledge guy. It really goes to show just how much freedom general aviation "small plane" pilots have in the United States. There's so much we can do within reason that a lot of people don't really understand that it can almost be like driving a car in the air in terms of freedom to navigate. On top of that we get to bring our passengers and show them these amazing views without having to go through an entire legal process... flying is awesome here.

  • Sir Reoser
    Sir Reoser 2 meses atrás +3679

    That fly around of the Empire State Building looked amazing in camera, couldn't imagine what the scale would have felt like in real life.

    • MrMaccas94
      MrMaccas94 2 meses atrás

      @Charles Dexter Ward be as delusional as you like there's a reason there's less than 20 left in the world and they get used once a year

    • Charles Dexter Ward
      Charles Dexter Ward 2 meses atrás

      @MrMaccas94 well I will conceded that there are complecations with Zeppelin's but nowhere even remotely close to them being in any shape whatsoever "doomed"

    • Charles Dexter Ward
      Charles Dexter Ward 2 meses atrás +1

      @MrMaccas94 pff. They are to be seen as air ships and compared with shipping. Especially with yacht's And crusie Ships for the purpose of comfortable travel with is a experience in in of itself. Transportation is not always about getting to your destination but sometimes to enjoy yourself in it. And there is people who are paying for crusies in ships so why should'nt there be people ready to pay for crusies in Air ships?

    • tuck shop
      tuck shop 2 meses atrás +2

      Google Earth VR.
      Settings, adjust for human scale ‐on

    • Justin McGough
      Justin McGough 2 meses atrás +4

      @Charles Dexter Ward Are zepplin's even running today? I know of blimps, but not zepplins

  • TheMajorStranger
    TheMajorStranger 2 meses atrás +51

    Tom is living his best life and taking us along for the ride. It's amazing.

  • East Coast Flying
    East Coast Flying 2 meses atrás +35

    I’ve done this. Very fun. As a professional pilot, I also see the “controlled” airspace side of things too. In fact, just landed in NY an hour ago!

  • sod off
    sod off 2 meses atrás +57

    Flying 1100' above the Hudson is quite something. Landing on it is a whole other challenge, not often attempted, though!

    • R3lay
      R3lay 2 meses atrás +3

      @Malcolm I was going to say that, landing on the Hudson River isn't that hard, unless you do it with an A320

    • chris kelvin
      chris kelvin 2 meses atrás +1

      @Malcolm Aha! Thank you!

    • Malcolm
      Malcolm 2 meses atrás +1

      I wouldn't say that - I've landed seaplanes on the Hudson River around 300 times.

    • Malcolm
      Malcolm 2 meses atrás +4

      @chris kelvin You are seeing air taxis operated by Fly the Whale and Blade. They land at East 23rd Street Seaplane Base.

    • chris kelvin
      chris kelvin 2 meses atrás +3

      The Sully incident joke aside, there is a good-sized float plane I see every day several times over Manhattan. He must be landing somewhere, maybe another commercial sight-seeing outfit.

  • Malcolm Lockridge
    Malcolm Lockridge 2 meses atrás +41

    I remember flying a Cessna 172 over Niagara Falls back in the late 1980s. It was the same kind of system, except that it had reserved altitudes for different types of aircraft. Helicopters had the bottom rung (0 to 1500 feet or so, as I recall) light fixed wing were the next rung, and large high performance aircraft had the top rung (ie: passenger jets). The problem was always the idiot sightseeing flight pilots in the helicopters would constantly pop up into the fixed wing circuit, causing us to frantically dodge them. When I heard later that two choppers had collided and crashed, it wasn’t a surprise at all. Interesting video

  • Millennial Chicken
    Millennial Chicken 2 meses atrás +2271

    Gotta love these little oddities in legalities that lets things like this happen

    • Julian Gerretsen
      Julian Gerretsen 2 meses atrás

      @Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill Same in the UK. People may think of the UK as super controlled, but really, the Class G areas are huge and you can have a whale of a time in them in a light plane if you stick to the basic (and common sense) rules. And even the conrolled areas for the most part are accomodating, if you are not afraid of talking on the radio to the "big boys", they are generally really friendly and helpful with zone transits, orbits over sights in the zone etc. Newcastle is a case in point as a Class D International Airport. The "bridges" aerial tour over the city is a favourite, but it's in Newcastles zone. 10 seconds on the radio with your request and they'll set you up with a clearance no issue 99% of the time.

    • Megadyptes
      Megadyptes 2 meses atrás +1

      Looking at charts of the area and the class B airspace around Laguardia and Newark is not a circle like normal but is cut short on the river banks so it looks like they did this on purpose to allow the GA flights down the river and around the statue.

    • George L
      George L 2 meses atrás

      In aviation (and this is in any country) you may fly unrestricted unless there is a restriction in place. If you look at aviation charts, you’ll see restricted airspace above commercial airports, military facilities, nuclear facilities and some sensitive areas. Everywhere else is unrestricted.
      The Hudson river, at a low altitude, simply doesn’t fall within restricted airspace of Newark-Liberty airport or Teterboro airport because it’s just far enough away and low enough not to be an issue for arrivals and departures.

    • Robert Neve
      Robert Neve 2 meses atrás +1

      it's fairly standard not an oddity and exists in many countries. Most of the UK has open airspace where planes just announce to each other

    • Gregory Borton
      Gregory Borton 2 meses atrás +3

      @Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill Also vast areas with very little air traffic compared to Europe- in fact I'd say recreational flying in small craft is a lot more popular in America for that reason.

  • Stephen John
    Stephen John 2 meses atrás +9

    Flew the Hudson corridor many times. Back when the WTC was still there you would fly past it and it would just loom over your flight level. it was like flying in a canyon. So long as you follow the routes, stay at the altitude and make regular radio position calls, youll do fine. Learned to fly with Century Flight academy- Great school!

  • Decked
    Decked 2 meses atrás +18

    this reminds me of very narrow trails/logging roads where you should announce over radio how many km/mi up or down the road you are. so that everyone with a radio knows where everyone else with a radio is.

  • JumpCuts
    JumpCuts 2 meses atrás +11

    I spent a lot of time taking lessons to get a pilot's license at an airport very close to this area. Even though 99.99% of the time you will never be flying along the Hudson (or wanting to deal with the hassle of navigating around the airspaces to get there), our written flight tests had an entire section on it. It's an added complication to learning to fly in one of the most difficult places to get a license (the airspace is very crowded).

  • Sarge084
    Sarge084 2 meses atrás +5

    In 1991 I stood on the observation deck of the World Trade Centre and watched in amazement as a light aircraft flew past at a lower altitude than where I was standing!

  • John Early
    John Early 2 meses atrás +2875

    Tom, just like you can legally fly up and down the Hudson and around the Statue of Liberty, you can also rent a kayak from the marina just behind the big clock you saw, and paddle out to and around Statue of Liberty. Whole different perspective, just as cool of an adventure.

    • ParadigmUnkn0wn
      ParadigmUnkn0wn Mês atrás

      @David Rector the restriction on paddling up next to a cruise ship probably has a lot more to do with keeping you safe on your little kayak than it does to prevent drug smuggling or explosives threats. If one started moving unexpectedly while you were that close to it, you'd be screwed.

    • ParadigmUnkn0wn
      ParadigmUnkn0wn Mês atrás

      @Clifford Sherman I wouldn't dare dunk myself into the Hudson, so no Eskimo rolls for me, and I highly advise anyone else to avoid it, too. That's some nasty, nasty water. Not Chicago river bad, but nothing is as bad as that since it's the only river in the USA where they still dump raw, untreated sewage.

    • L.Perpenhente
      L.Perpenhente 2 meses atrás

      @Oscar Cacnio I know a youtuber who suffered through at least 3 laps of pilots on his warehouse. 7 on a bad day, 11 on the worst one.

    • P Z
      P Z 2 meses atrás +2

      that's so in toms "you can do this thing"-video series wheelhouse!

    • Oscar Cacnio
      Oscar Cacnio 2 meses atrás

      Nah, it's just a reference. I live in a city with a regional airport, but not where he is.

  • Aman Manglik
    Aman Manglik 2 meses atrás +5

    I think at this point Tom is going to be remembered in history as the guy who did the most amount of crazy adventures in one life. And thanks to today's tech we would very likely have a fully preserved video history of it all.

  • Maxine Loveman
    Maxine Loveman 2 meses atrás +7

    I would LOVE to fly this one day. I've done the Los Angeles Special Flight Rules Area on multiple occasions. You fly right over LAX without talking to air traffic control. It really does FEEL like it should be illegal.

  • Bill Doorley
    Bill Doorley 2 meses atrás +6

    Thank you, Tom, for bringing back some fond memories. My Dad was a private pilot, and I got my ticket when I turned 17. Shortly after that--would have been 1977 or so--we flew the family Cessna 182 up the Hudson River Corridor. Dad had never done it before, but he planned everything carefully. We took off from Linden Airport in New Jersey, just south of Newark, and flew north past Manhattan. The Twin Towers were still new, and they certainly towered over our four-seat, single-engine Cessna. Dad and I had a grand time, while my mother and sister in the back were quietly praying that nothing would go wrong. Of course, everybody was always looking for other air traffic. I remember it as being a lot busier than on your flight, with planes going past below us as well as above us. It was a once-in-a-lifetime experience, and I'm so happy to see that it's still possible. Thanks again!

  • ArViBi
    ArViBi 2 meses atrás +8

    The one thing I take home from this video (not the amazing things about flying in this location, but):
    I have been closer to the Statue of Liberty than Tom Scott has been.
    Now, please don't ruin my day by saying you went there later that day, Tom.

  • Shreyas Bharadwaj
    Shreyas Bharadwaj 2 meses atrás +3

    Was never more jealous of Tom until this video.
    He usually shows new and quirky places, but to show a common favorite from an absolutely amazing angle just takes your breath away.

  • The Opinionated YouTuber
    The Opinionated YouTuber 2 meses atrás +5

    @Tom Scott: Thank you for including captions on this video! I am hard of hearing, and the audio quality left a lot to be desired (in-flight intercom audio bandwidth is limited, so this is expected). Again, thanks for captioning. It means a lot to those who have hearing struggles.

  • Sticks_04
    Sticks_04 Mês atrás

    A few years ago when I was in my tech school’s aviation program, I flew up the hudson river, across Central Park in Manhattan, and over LaGuardia airport. Still to this day it is definetly the best aviaton experience I have ever had in my life!

  • jadefalcon001
    jadefalcon001 2 meses atrás +1

    Vicariously adventuring through Tom's experiences is one of my favorite things.

  • Jonathan Edelson
    Jonathan Edelson 2 meses atrás +2014

    When I was in college and shortly thereafter, I would regularly fly the Hudson River corridor.
    I especially loved flying that area at night. What was especially nifty was the way the heat of the city would create convection and interact with humidity in the air. I remember seeing a thin layer of fog, 'draped' over the buildings and lit from below, as if someone had spread a thin silk over the entire city.

    • RedOrchidee137
      RedOrchidee137 Mês atrás

      That's nicely worded, i can see it in my mind's eye quite clearly. If I wasn't such a clutz at times I'd like to fly a small plane every now and again, but I don't really trust myself to maintain the focus required to stay safe.

    • Tom
      Tom 2 meses atrás

      @DeepHorizon So central park?

    • Julian Gerretsen
      Julian Gerretsen 2 meses atrás +11

      @Liftoff Night flying is technically VFR. You have to have a night rating of course to cover all the technical and psychological aspects, but you are still flying VFR with visual references.

    • Toby
      Toby 2 meses atrás +1

      @DeepHorizon so whr? you'd open the doors in the cssna and buckle in before crashing . thn vacate asap whilst under water

    • Rachel Erin
      Rachel Erin 2 meses atrás +1

      Wow what a phenomenal thing to experience

  • John S
    John S 2 meses atrás +3

    Hey you flew past my house at 3:20 ! On the Fourth of July, there were quite a few airplanes going up and down the Hudson River. I'm curious how close they were allowed to the fireworks shows.

  • Nym Alous
    Nym Alous 2 meses atrás +2

    I flew nearly that same flight path in a very similar plane with my uncle and younger brother... roughly 36 years ago. I can remember looking "down" on the Statue of Liberty as we made that left turn (and I was on the left side of the plane too).

  • David Hedges
    David Hedges 2 meses atrás +2

    The same applies to the Thames in London, flying along it is simple easy and possible, and almost required, flying into the city is difficult, complex, an administration nightmare, but still just possible ...

  • The Big Ragu
    The Big Ragu 2 meses atrás +1

    Lived in NYC for 4 years, didn't know you could do this. Makes me want to go back and hire a pilot

  • Pilot7773
    Pilot7773 2 meses atrás +1

    I'm a flight instructor and I do this with students at least once a week. I did it twice today. Never gets old

  • Matt Fromowitz
    Matt Fromowitz Mês atrás +1

    This video was a reminder for me to do my SFRA training so I can fly the Hudson Corridor before I go back to Florida next month. Thanks Tom

  • Zachary Vickers
    Zachary Vickers 2 meses atrás +7

    Fun fact: there is a SFRA in Los Angeles that cuts directly through LAX that GA traffic can use!

  • LongaVita
    LongaVita 2 meses atrás +2

    I feel like this video is missing two topics I expected to see. 1) Given 9/11, how is the free flight corridor still available, and how is it still so easy to get a photo mission? and 2) Engine breaks down about free flight corridor, where can you land? Is it always a river-based write-off for the airplane? Regardless, great video!

  • Khaz intheDark
    Khaz intheDark 2 meses atrás +1598

    I like the cheeky grin Tom had when he said “you can’t fly over the city. Unless”

    • rivulet
      rivulet 2 meses atrás

      @TheUnreal7 dude 😳

    • darkjanggo
      darkjanggo 2 meses atrás

      unless 😳

    • detrix
      detrix 2 meses atrás +3

      unless bush gave you a call

    • Vigilant Cosmic Penguin
      Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 2 meses atrás +4

      @Iiiiit's Magreta! I guess Tom Scott really likes doing unexpected stuff with planes.

    • Iiiiit's Magreta!
      Iiiiit's Magreta! 2 meses atrás +31

      Same energy as "you'd have to charter a plane. (cut) So I chartered a plane!"

  • F Silva
    F Silva 2 meses atrás +2

    Went to liberty island earlier this year.
    I do have to say that the amount of helicopters and airplanes surrounding the statue made a lot of noise pollution, so much so that it took away some of the enjoyment from the experience and tour.

  • Joe Gee
    Joe Gee 2 meses atrás

    I actually flew with a pilot friend of mine this exact route. It was amazing.

  • JBS Travel
    JBS Travel 2 meses atrás +6

    You get a ton of unique traffic in the SFRA. Today I went out to the river, saw numerous helicopters, some single engine props, some twin engine props, and an Icon A5 seaplane. Sometimes I see a Grand Caravan seaplane coming south from the East River seaplane terminal, circling and then heading north along the Hudson. Today there was also a blimp in the SFRA, but I didn’t see it. Just above it of course was traffic heading into LGA and just west was traffic landing at EWR including a 747 that had been diverted from its intended destination of Atlanta

  • David Cattin
    David Cattin 2 meses atrás +2

    Reminds me of flying into DC: one of more interesting approaches in the United States as the aircraft follows the Potomac River and makes a hard right turn close to the National Mall and the Pentagon.

    • Zhou Biden
      Zhou Biden 2 meses atrás

      You know who else did a hard right into the pentagon???

  • Rob Maroc
    Rob Maroc 2 meses atrás

    Thank you Tom for taking us on another great adventure; amazing things most people don't know about.

  • MadmanMortonYT
    MadmanMortonYT 2 meses atrás +2

    Fun fact: the mast on the Empire State Building was originally built as a station for airships to dock and transfer passengers. Plans fell through after airships began falling out of the sky...

  • Phillip Gerba
    Phillip Gerba 2 meses atrás +4

    I work at One World Observatory at the top of One World Trade Center, and I can tell you that little surprises my guests more than seeing aircraft flying below us. It is a very common sight, especially when the weather is nice.

  • Robby Huang
    Robby Huang 2 meses atrás

    I have been watching for quite a few years now and I just want to drop a line and say I love what you’re doing. Keep up the fantastic work!

  • Taurus
    Taurus 2 meses atrás +586

    Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 has this route as a mission too! With graphics settings turned to the max the route is quite facinating :) I bet what Tom experienced here was on another level, truly breathtaking!

  • StrathclydeGamer
    StrathclydeGamer 2 meses atrás

    Another great video, something I was aware of already as an enthusiast but that’s one of the great things about Tom’s videos - they’re for everyone and still entertain & inform.

  • Invictus _1
    Invictus _1 2 meses atrás

    I love when Tom shows off all the small, obscure places and things. I bet the new York city will really be able to feel the tourists visiting in the coming months.

  • flyingfiddler
    flyingfiddler 2 meses atrás +2

    I fly airliners over the top of this airspace every day in and out of LaGuardia and Kennedy, but I've never done the VFR corridor myself.

  • Malcolm
    Malcolm 2 meses atrás +1

    Nice video! I'm a commercial pilot in the NYC area, and I've probably taken about 100 people on this same route over the years. Their excitement over the views is usually similar to yours! Tom, next time you're in NYC, drop me a line and let's get you back to the Hudson River - in a seaplane!

  • Marcus LaGrone
    Marcus LaGrone 2 meses atrás +1

    Back in 1995 my advisor in grad school took me on a flight like this starting from the New Jersey side. I think the rules then had as at 900', but that was a long time ago. The route we took we had to turn around inside the width of the Hudson river... and we didn't get to go take a looksee at the Empire State building. That was the last time I had seen the World Trade Center in person, and it was over our heads... A really cool flight.

  • Galilla Sinatra
    Galilla Sinatra 2 meses atrás +1

    I did this exact same flight with a friend flying. Was great! You really have to watch out for and communicate with the choppers.

  • sam
    sam 2 meses atrás +1

    That’s insane, I was flying through this area and saw that tail number flying through, didn’t realize it was you Tom!

  • Jeff Petrie
    Jeff Petrie 2 meses atrás

    Wow, Tom! What an amazing experience!! Thank you for sharing it with us.

  • tarren
    tarren 2 meses atrás +950

    When I was a kid we were lucky enough to do this - my godfather had a hobby of flying small planes, and when we visited he got a friend to take us up and do an aerial tour of the city. It was amazing. We also passed the twin towers and have a photo of the plane's-eye view of them - quite surreal. (And my mum insists on hanging that photo right in our entrance hallway, which sometimes gets some very awkward/odd looks!)

    • Sidney Chan
      Sidney Chan 2 meses atrás +12

      @Polygon Tower a godfather is an appointed guardian of a child, like a non-parent parent. Usually an uncle, or close family friend.

    • Polygon Tower
      Polygon Tower 2 meses atrás +2

      Your godfather?
      What do you mean?
      Your criminal? Your murderer?

    • MicroDisturbia
      MicroDisturbia 2 meses atrás +4

      can you share that pic? i'd love to see it

    • KrispyKrackers88
      KrispyKrackers88 2 meses atrás +6

      Wow that's nice, how big did they seem? Always have loved those two buildings but I was born too late to have ever seen them, did see the new Trade Center though in 2021.

    • Sidney Chan
      Sidney Chan 2 meses atrás +12

      @PixelMaster i see what you did there.

  • Matt Clarke
    Matt Clarke 2 meses atrás +5

    Amazing! Kindof reminds me of those crossroads in some European countries that have no signs or lights. Literally just relying on people to work it out.

    • sfitz219
      sfitz219 2 meses atrás +1

      @Ragnhild in the US, most intersections without a light or roundabout have a "stop" sign for at least one of the roads

    • Ragnhild
      Ragnhild 2 meses atrás +1

      That’s the default kind of crossroads, isn’t it? (I am European)
      Unless crossroads where one road has priority and the other has “give way” signs are more common. They’re both definitely a lot more common than the ones with lights.

  • Dimasterua
    Dimasterua 2 meses atrás +1

    Was a pleasure meeting you at Century, Tom! Glad your flight went well! 😄

  • Hans Dampf
    Hans Dampf 2 meses atrás +1

    i'd love to see an extented cut of this with the whole flight

  • Victory Mark
    Victory Mark 2 meses atrás

    I spent some time inpatient last summer at NYU Langone on the 17th floor with a direct view of the East River and I remember being absolutely flummoxed watching the amount of small planes not just passing by but also sea planes landing in the water and taking off again! Now knowing that part of the East River is in the SFRA it all makes sense.

  • Official MayDL
    Official MayDL 2 meses atrás

    Tom Scott is always providing me with some of the coolest and informative videos that I've ever seen! I especially love this video, and I would love to see you here stateside more often!

  • Fantic156
    Fantic156 2 meses atrás +4

    Wow, just wow .... Closest I've been to flying that close to cities is coming into Belfast and London City Airports .. But flying along the Hudson!!!! I'm jealous!! Great video ;)

  • mar cel
    mar cel 2 meses atrás

    Thanks Tom ! Gonna use this on my upcoming flyby exam that I didn't study for. Thanks for giving me only the essential info in one short video. Wish me luck ! !

  • Nothing Matters
    Nothing Matters  2 meses atrás

    I love your videos. I did this but much lower in a helicopter as a child with my parents. We flew around the famous Bridge, Statue of Liberty, Chrysler Building, Empire State and Twin Towers, only a couple of years after they went up. It's amazing that even after all these years I can remember seeing each one from the air. My mum was screaming in fear a lot of the time and my sister and I were whooping with delight. Both my parents are gone now but this video brought back some happy memories from my childhood.

  • Nathan Roon
    Nathan Roon 2 meses atrás +871

    The no air traffic control is just so counterintuitive to how I imagine any current flying works, love that they’re just talking and negotiating with each other.

    • Soviet_Salsa
      Soviet_Salsa 2 meses atrás

      @littleferrhis the worst thing is that has happened.

    • littleferrhis
      littleferrhis 2 meses atrás

      @Soviet_Salsa See the trick is just to say you’re on the RNAV.

    • Soviet_Salsa
      Soviet_Salsa 2 meses atrás

      @littleferrhis the easiest way to make them angry is to fly a straight in while the pattern is packed.

    • Stuart Morrow
      Stuart Morrow 2 meses atrás

      Kind of like that town in England that got rid of traffic lights.

    • BelowMinimums
      BelowMinimums 2 meses atrás

      As a pilot I can legally takeoff from an airport called Half Moon Bay on the west coast of California and fly nonstop to an airport called Kill Devil Hills on the east coast of North Carolina up to 17,500 feet and not talk to a single air traffic controller or file a flightplan. If I stayed below 10,000 feet I wouldn't even need a transponder!

  • petertrei
    petertrei 2 meses atrás

    Back in the late 70s, I was on a commercial flight from Toronto to NYC. We flew down the Hudson like Tom, and not that much higher. It was spectacular.

  • oxbudy
    oxbudy 2 meses atrás +1

    NYC blew my mind from the ground, despite years of being exposed to it by media. I can't even imagine the feeling of seeing it above like that.

  • Jonathan Dunn
    Jonathan Dunn 2 meses atrás

    I flew this with my family a few years ago during Covid, and it is honestly something I will never forget

  • A. Jung
    A. Jung 2 meses atrás

    Omg, Tom, thank you so much for sharing this amazing footage! Totally loved watching it!👍👍👍

  • Shade Wilson
    Shade Wilson 2 meses atrás +223

    I am no aviation person, but I got Microsoft flight simulator about a year ago and when I went over NYC the ATC kind of goes crazy in game too. If you're over the city you '' have '' to be in constant communication. But there was a place above the Hudson where they just left you alone. That's really interesting, not only that it exists in real life, but that the developers of the game thought about that too. What a time to be alive.

    • SteveHeist
      SteveHeist 2 meses atrás +4

      @Pocket Fluff Productions There is vandalism protection, almost certainly, but if you take a snapshot of *all of Wikipedia* at once something amongst that everything is almost certainly vandalized *at that instant*

    • Pocket Fluff Productions
      Pocket Fluff Productions 2 meses atrás +2

      @Joshua Huseman "someone had edited OpenStreetMaps to mark their house as 300 stories tall as a joke" I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the "Open" part implies that people can just do that, but I'd have expected some kind of vandalism protection like Wikipedia.

    • Mr. Moon
      Mr. Moon 2 meses atrás +1

      @Joshua Huseman Don't forget the huge chasm somewhere in brazil with a landing stripe at the bottom of it. Don't know if that still exists though.

    • hazonku
      hazonku 2 meses atrás +5

      Well the game literally operates off the real rules and maps.

    • Joshua Huseman
      Joshua Huseman 2 meses atrás +46

      The developers actually used real pilot reference maps (combined with OpenStreetMaps data) to generate most of the in-game map data, so I would expect the game to treat this area similarly to a small private runway without ATC.
      In fact, this automated map generation has caused some comical and bizarre map results, such as a 300-story skyscraper in a random neighborhood where someone had edited OpenStreetMaps to mark their house as 300 stories tall as a joke, or how you can take off from my brother's driveway because the airport data in the area is a few years outdated, and his house is where a private airport used to be.

  • LexieAssassin
    LexieAssassin 2 meses atrás

    I'm curious as to what the turbulence was like. That has been my massive weakness when it comes to small planes like that. Heck, the last one I went up years and years ago, I blew chunks on the start of final due to severe motion sickness. Though, admittedly where I live, the turbulence is horrid, or at least it has been every time I've gone up in a small plane.

  • Matthias Schaffer
    Matthias Schaffer 10 dias atrás +1

    Thank you Tom & John for that absolutely interesting insight!

  • Pierre
    Pierre 2 meses atrás

    I would have never imagined, especially when you know American regulations regarding air space. Thanks a lot for everything Tom

  • doyneamite
    doyneamite 2 meses atrás +7

    The scale and density of New York is incredible. Would love to go one day.

    • Smash Diggins
      Smash Diggins 2 meses atrás +1

      Nonsense. Be smart and stick to tourist areas and you'll be safe. No need to scare people unreasonably. New York has an insane level of police on hand as well, unlike some other cities I would be more hesitant to recommend visiting, like parts of Chicago.

    • Doodle Dangernoodle
      Doodle Dangernoodle 2 meses atrás

      It’s unfortunately really suffered during Covid. It isn’t safe right now

  • eksboks148
    eksboks148 2 meses atrás +448

    i could just imagine if there was oncoming traffic and he just shouts into the mic "HEY, WATCH WHERE YOUS GOIN, IM FLYIN HEA"

    • eksboks148
      eksboks148 2 meses atrás

      @Carbon 12 true

    • eksboks148
      eksboks148 2 meses atrás +1

      @Vigilant Cosmic Penguin as always 😂

    • Carbon 12
      Carbon 12 2 meses atrás


    • Vigilant Cosmic Penguin
      Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 2 meses atrás

      I will never stop laughing at jokes about that line.

    • Nathaniel Fruchter
      Nathaniel Fruchter 2 meses atrás +4

      I managed to bag a seat on a flight being done by some aeronautics students while in school, they flew down to NYC from Massachusetts and then came back up through the Hudson corridor. We were flying over top as we spotted a few helicopters below, and on the radio you could hear one of the news copters yelling at a sightseeing copter for getting too close.

  • Rodrigo Mélo
    Rodrigo Mélo 2 meses atrás

    The best part was flying over the Empire State, I envy you!
    It would be great to be there with pro photo gear under such great weather conditions!

  • RisingStar
    RisingStar 2 meses atrás

    I love how Tom gets into all these incredibly cool and unique situations, and he just runs 10 second clips of it. Not hating- at all. Love the vids.

  • The Artist's Studio
    The Artist's Studio 2 meses atrás

    Tom, you never cease at putting a smile on my face!

  • Anschel Schaffer-Cohen
    Anschel Schaffer-Cohen 2 meses atrás +2

    Grew up in Jersey City, when I heard "by the clock" I was thinking "OMG does he mean the Colgate clock?" and I was immediately very satisfied

  • Ruben K
    Ruben K 2 meses atrás +407

    I envy you in the sense that at one point you will be able to look back at your life and can really say you've had amazing experiences. Most people will only live a couple of those at best.

    • Vigilant Cosmic Penguin
      Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 2 meses atrás +1

      @robotniqueee He's going to switch to the suit full-time.

    • robotniqueee
      robotniqueee 2 meses atrás +4

      I just hope he wears a different shirt when he is done with BRclip.

    • Marlon Bain
      Marlon Bain 2 meses atrás +29

      It's kind of like we're having the best parts of them with him, from the comfort of our homes. We don't have to do any of the legwork or pay for things. For most of these videos I do prefer that tradeoff.

    • Alastair Ward
      Alastair Ward 2 meses atrás +15

      That was a problem for future Tom, but now that he's future Tom it's actually worked out.

    • Frederf
      Frederf 2 meses atrás +28

      In 40 years it's going to be an amazing montage.

  • Jack Ely
    Jack Ely 7 dias atrás

    I’ve done this flight, it really is amazing that it’s completely legal, but it’s a sight to behold

  • Dan Little
    Dan Little 2 meses atrás +1

    I'm a sailing instructor at Manhattan yacht club. I dock at the colgate clock. You flew right over me!
    I love your videos

  • Afro Dieter
    Afro Dieter 2 meses atrás +1

    Crazy how few trees there are in NY City. Just flew over Hamburg and it seems like a forest in comparison.

  • Mike
    Mike 2 meses atrás

    That was quite stunning. I hope you appreciate the privileges your job allows. I would love to know the percentage of our worlds population that will ever experience that. But Thanks for the ride along. 👍🏻

  • Adam Holland - Adz
    Adam Holland - Adz 2 meses atrás

    I love these kinds of videos Tom does. He's just like "Here's something cool you can do. I'll record it for you." Makes you jealous of his job ^_^

  • DarkXTC
    DarkXTC 2 meses atrás +1

    Is it bad that i kind of envy tom for his interesting life? Traveling around and learning little tidbits to share with the rest of us schmucks seems to be fun^^

  • BrandonJ1068
    BrandonJ1068 2 meses atrás

    I was sitting at pier 86 the other day and saw a very low-flying water plane fly by and had this thought! I was very surprised that they could do that! Tom read my mind!

  • MeloMemories
    MeloMemories Mês atrás

    what an amazing thing. I'd love to go out and do that. I hate flying, but to see that would be a really interesting thing to do.

  • Glenn Cooper
    Glenn Cooper 2 meses atrás +147

    I'm a private pilot in the U.S., and sometimes it's easy to forget the incredible freedoms we have here as pilots, even in places where you wouldn't think so (like this VFR corridor next to NY city).

    • Mark Zhao
      Mark Zhao 2 meses atrás +9

      @Anthony Francis-Jones There are many options for a small Cessna 172. Landing on a road on Jersey side is an option.

    • Carbon 12
      Carbon 12 2 meses atrás +2

      @Anthony Francis-Jones Slightly more than in an aircraft fire.

    • Thomas Hatchett
      Thomas Hatchett 2 meses atrás +26

      @Anthony Francis-Jones Pray for a second Miracle on the Hudson

    • Anthony Francis-Jones
      Anthony Francis-Jones 2 meses atrás +5

      Glenn, what are the options here if you have an engine failure (in a single)?

  • Cooper
    Cooper 2 meses atrás

    Tom, what’s disappointing is that you find it amazing to be able to do this. I find it amazing that this is even a big deal.
    We’ve had to change our lives so much because a certain group of people decided to ‘spook’ us and we got so spooked that we changed the fundamental way we live our lives.
    That’s another example; I wish to say a certain other word, not ‘spook’ that starts with ‘T’ but there’s a likelihood that BRclip might block it. Again, because our lives have changed, we’re not permitted to say basic words now.
    You can’t say a certain ‘B - - b’ word or you’ll go to jail! And no, I’m not talking not about ‘boob’.
    I find this video frustrating, not pleasant to watch. People think we should have flying cars by now. I remember watching a show called ‘Beyond 2000’ that used to predict scientific and futuristic advancements we should’ve expected this millennium. Everyone thought we’d be flying around in cars by now. Nope, never gonna happen.
    Could you imagine all the possible 9/11s being caused by all the people flying in the air… on purpose or accidentally. Humans are terrible drivers, without even considering the Z axis. Imagine the third?!
    I see joy in your face while flying over NY. But I’m frowning in disappointment at the intense restriction that have burdened our way of life. How long did you have to pre-book this experience? It’s not joyful what you discovered. It’s sad that it’s so unknown, unexpected and so rare.

  • Zev Farkas
    Zev Farkas 2 meses atrás

    I grew up in that area, but haven't been there for about ten years, so thanks for letting me see the old place from a really neat perspective... BTW - I didn't know that there was what looks to be a rooftop garden over one of the "lower" levels of the Empire State Building.

  • Aaron M J Fisher
    Aaron M J Fisher 2 meses atrás

    This is particularly cool to me as I've been on the observation deck of the Empire State Building! I've also been on a boat on the Hudson River sailing up to the Statue of Liberty! Great times!

  • David G Austin
    David G Austin 2 meses atrás

    Dang. That’s one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen! My husband has a pilot’s license but I think I won’t tell him about this. I’ll leave the Statue of Liberty loop to the professionals.

  • Andrew Yee
    Andrew Yee 2 meses atrás

    This is brilliant how you can view so close - and get such a great view - all "unrestricted"

  • Maxwell Jayden Falk
    Maxwell Jayden Falk 2 meses atrás

    I did my training at century air for my private pilot license, I started my training there when I was 17 and got my license a month after I turned 18, they really do provide some top notch training. Now I am about to be 20 and every time I tell someone about this their minds always explode in disbelief and I have had the pleasure of doing this flight at least 20-30 times in the two years I have been flying. Every-time just takes your breath away. I would recommend talking to Newark, Laguardia, and TEB as they provide traffic services in spotting other aircraft in the corridor and makes it a lot safer but still lots of fun.

  • Carlos B.
    Carlos B. 2 meses atrás

    That pilot must be one of the nicest, most humble pilots around! Cool dude!

  • ManualPixarPresents
    ManualPixarPresents 2 meses atrás

    This answers so many questions I’ve had about seeing the low flying planes on the Hudson. Always made me a bit nervous being post 9/11 and all

  • FakeAccountIsFake
    FakeAccountIsFake 2 meses atrás +153

    Never thought I'd be able to see an aerial view of my apartment in a Tom Scott video...

    • O2F2
      O2F2 2 meses atrás +2

      @Knurz They have to live there, they don't own a penthouse suite or anything, a lot of NY apartments are absolutely ass.

    • AussieAce
      AussieAce 2 meses atrás +6

      @Knurz not after paying rent

    • wbennin
      wbennin 2 meses atrás


    • Knurz
      Knurz 2 meses atrás +30

      If you have an appartement in Manhatten, i guees you have the money to spare to see an aerial view of your appartement yourself :D

    • Souris Voleur
      Souris Voleur 2 meses atrás +9

      Did you wave?